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To screen or not to screen is the wrong question.

By March 19, 2018August 15th, 2025No Comments9 min read

Editor’s Note:  This month’s feature written by Dr.Cara English, DBH, was written in response to the recent article that follows. Reading this first will undoubtedly provide some context and insight. Thank you.
 

Dembosky, A. (2018, March 19). Docs Worry There’s ‘Nowhere To Send’ New And Expectant Moms With Depression. Retrieved March 19, 2018.

 

To screen or not to screen is the wrong question. 

Why we should be asking, “What do obstetric providers need to feel comfortable screening?”

By Cara English, DBH

When I was under intense stress and pressure during my doctoral program, I experienced heart palpitations. As a behavioral health provider, I knew that my history of anxiety and the stress I was enduring were likely resulting in this new physical symptom, but just in case, I made an appointment to see my PCP of ten years, who had worked with me for anxiety. When I saw her, I said, “I think this may just be anxiety. What do you think?” She referred me to a cardiologist and did not ask about my stress. An EKG quickly ruled out cardio pathophysiology, and the treating cardiologist asked me when I had experienced the symptoms. My symptoms began while I was driving home from my 2nd job and thinking about all of the homework I needed to complete while simultaneously feeling guilty about the time I wouldn’t be spending with my young son that night. The cardiologist smiled and said, “You’d be surprised how many women I see with similar symptoms.”

The doctoral program I was enrolled in at this time was in integrated behavioral health – bridging the gap between body and mind in medical practice by embedding trained behavioral health providers in traditionally body-focused medical care. I knew that patients got better faster, experienced fewer medical errors, drug interactions, unnecessary procedures and surgeries, and reported better experiences when behavioral health was part of their care. I knew that because of the better patient experience and outcomes, medical providers too had an improved quality of life – their jobs were more fulfilling. They got to do the work they were trained to do and hand off the care they weren’t trained on – mental health – to a trained expert on their team and in their office. Cost-effectiveness of primary care behavioral health integration has been well-documented. I knew all of this when the PCP didn’t ask about my stress. I knew all of this when the cardiologist told me that a significant percentage of the female patients he saw had untreated or undiagnosed anxiety, manifesting in physical symptoms.

Why didn’t they know these things? And more importantly, why, in women’s health, where the lifetime prevalence of depression is 1.5-2.5 times the rate in men and the lifetime prevalence of anxiety disorders are even more common (36.4%) than depression (24.9%), WHY isn’t the system of caredoing anything about what we know about these things?

Fast-forward seven years. I’m now a practicing Doctor of Behavioral Health (DBH), specializing in women’s health and perinatal care, also known as maternal mental health. Additionally, I serve as the CEO of theCummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies (CGI) and Director of its Doctor of Behavioral Health degree program. In 2017, I co-founded aMaternal Mental Health practice to fill the gap in mental health services for perinatal women and their loved ones. I teach my students about how to better care for women in primary and specialty medical settings, and speak at conferences on this topic to rooms of providers who serve diverse populations of women in different states, countries, and tribal communities. Despite the growing body of evidence for the benefits of integrated behavioral health and the well-documented gender disparities in mental health, the implementation rate of the integrated care model is miniscule in women’s health, particularly in the perinatal specialty.

Providers debate whether or not to screen birthing women for postpartum depression, citing difficulty identifying a mental health provider for patients who screen positive and little to no financial incentive to screen due to poor insurance reimbursement for this practice. In the US, 78% of women who screen positive for postpartum depression do not receive mental health treatment. Many patients cite problems with insurance coverage or time off from work to go to mental health visits. Some patients who ask for help are instead treated as criminals by uneducated providers who cite standard of care protocols forcontacting the police on mothers who ask for help from their women’s health providers for postpartum depression and anxiety.

Integrated care resolves these issues. I deliver mental health care services in a birth and women’s primary care center, where I consult with OBGYNs, certified nurse midwives, birth assistants, and patients that screen positive for perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. There is no additional cost to screen our patients; the screening instruments (Edinburgh,ACEsGAD-7PHQ-9, and MDQ) are available in the public domain, are completed by patients at regular intervals during primary care, prenatal, and postpartum visits, and take less than 3 minutes to score and interpret. I’m on hand to consult with patients immediately, via telehealth, or by appointment when screens are positive. Outcomes indicate that the majority of patients’ mental health complaints are resolved in 6-12 sessions, depending on ACE score and social support. I find it difficult to imagine why women’s health providers – and all health providers – are not trained in this model in medical schools, as the evidence for its effectiveness is now considered common knowledge.

The idea that legislation is required to get providers to include behavioral health in medical care, or to screen for the most common complication of childbirth seems like a pretty good indicator that our healthcare system has gone so far away from its mission and purpose that there is likely no saving it. The concept that providers or patients don’t know where to find mental health services is understandable, but not excusable. Why is it standard care for my primary care provider to refer me to one specialist but not another? Why would my primary care provider take the time to build referral relationships with numerous specialty providers, i.e., a chiropractor, a dermatologist, a cardiologist, an ENT specialist, an allergist, an emergency care center, but not a mental health or psychiatric specialist?

2020 Mom is an advocacy organization that promotes evidence-based training in maternal mental health and maternal safety. Their response to the “to screen or not to screen” question is simple: “It’s the Wrong Question. We should be asking, “What do obstetric providers need to feel comfortable screening?” AB 2193 is a bill 2020 Mom is supporting in California, which would provide support for OBs through insurance companies, including a development of case management infrastructure, that would connect patients to qualified, in-network mental health care and provide teleconsults with reproductive psychiatrists. This bill is similar to those passed in other states to make screening mandatory, including Massachusetts and Illinois, where major gains for women’s health have been achieved due to this advocacy.

While I fully support this legislation, it falls short of filling the true gaps for women in healthcare, by failing to fully integrate behavioral health into primary and specialty care. As a carve-out, mental health will continue to carry the stigma, shame, and selfish self-care image instead of earning a place in health care where it belongs. The US healthcare system will continue to be the most costly in the world, and patients will continue to suffer needlessly because we accept inertia rather than demand change.

As a DBH, I was trained to find a need in healthcare and fill it with a disruptive, innovative solution that improves patient health outcomes and reduces costs by providing effective, efficient, and evidence-based care. It’s a degree and mindset that stands out from the scores of traditional training and education earned by the majority of medical and mental health providers in the US, as DBH’s are not restricted to silos of care. We see the whole patient, whole family, whole population, and whole system. DBH’s seek to do what it takes to make things better. We build relationships that result in more effective and efficient care, communication, coordination, cultural sensitivity, and cost savings – the 5 C’s of integration.

It’s time for DBH’s to advocate for legislation that truly shores up gaps in training, funding, and accountability for integration and replaces the variability in the system with standardized care resulting in better outcomes. Will you join me? Tweet your thoughts to@CGIBHS. Let’s make this conversation visible and advocate for change. 

Editor’s Note:  This month’s feature written by Dr.Cara English, DBH, was written in response to the recent article that follows. Reading this first will undoubtedly provide some context and insight. Thank you.
 

Dembosky, A. (2018, March 19). Docs Worry There’s ‘Nowhere To Send’ New And Expectant Moms With Depression. Retrieved March 19, 2018.

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As a member of the AAPI community, I’m very familiar with the barriers to mental health services and the need to break through the glass wall of cultural stigma that prevents many from receiving potentially life–saving treatment. I was the only Asian American person in my master’s cohort, the only Asian American person in many of my clinical work settings, the only Asian American person to walk into many of the professional settings that I pushed myself to show up to. In my current practice, I’m constantly reminded by my patients of how difficult it is to find an Asian American mental health provider, though this reminder constantly informs me that more needs to be done for my community. Day after day, I read stories of Asian American people who die by suicide as a consequence of our culture’s avoidance of mental health topics. As a DBH, my biggest goal is to use my expertise in whole–person care to amplify the conversation around mental health and help my community understand that mental healthcare is not a privilege that we are not entitled to, it is a crucial part of our healthcare that will manifest differently in us than what many Western psychology or psychiatry textbooks will describe, and that our unique experience of mental health issues are valid, important, and is time to be part of the larger conversation.

Willam Chum, LMHCDBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - September 16, 2022

The Doctor in Behavioral Health (DBH) program has changed my understanding of the subject and career path. Before this academic journey, my knowledge of behavioral health was primarily theoretical, including essential ideas and methods. However, the DBH curriculum combined intense academic research with practical application, helping me understand behavioral health from multiple angles. Recognizing mental health as part of total health changed my perspective. The biopsychosocial model, which showed how biological, psychological, and social variables affect mental health, was stressed in the DBH curriculum. This comprehensive approach made me realize how complex human behavior is and how important it is to address mental health issues. Effective interventions must target the individual’s surroundings, relationships, and life experiences, not just symptoms. The curriculum also gave me enhanced evidence-based practice training to execute successful solutions. Studies methods and data analysis classes improved my critical thinking and allowed me to evaluate and apply behavioral health studies. This gave me the confidence to contribute to the field’s knowledge base through practice and research.

Dr. Rhea Hill, DBH, LPCDBH Alumna, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - February 17, 2025

This program will change how you present to the world, not just as a professional but as an individual. Understand this is work but the work is worth it and the journey is undeniably transformative. If you are seeking a doctorate for the title, this is not the program for you. If you are seeking a doctorate to interrupt and disrupt the course of healthcare, then this is the program for you. You won’t find a more supportive program with professors who are dedicated to your success and your education. This program is not about the regurgitation of information. It is about the appropriate applied application of knowledge and information to push forward and become an advocate for equitable and quality care for all.

Brandy K. Biglow LMHC, CCTP, QSDBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - February 5, 2024

The Doctor of Behavioral Health (DBH) program has definitely transformed my understanding of behavioral health. Understanding the links between physical and mental health has taught how to make better treatment decisions. The DBH program has also given me insights that otherwise would not be possible and allows me to view individuals through a lens that I was previously ignorant of. This program has helped me grow into a more confident individual, provider, and parent.

Cory H. Cannady, BCBA, LBADBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - March 13, 2024

The DBH program has reinforced my vision of viewing behavioral health (BH) as an integrated component of the healthcare system rather than a siloed service. As a practitioner in the focused BH realm of substance use disorder (SUD) treatment, I observe on a regular basis how identifying and serving SUD patients is often missed, ignored and stigmatized in primary healthcare, despite the fact that early intervention at these check-points often has the potential to intervene earlier and lessen the negative SUD outcomes frequently seen by the time a patient reaches specialty SUD services. Reinforcement received in my DBH program has motivated me to promote integration as a leader in my workplace and is a primary factor in considering the long-term trajectory of my individual career path.

Kenneth L. Roberts, MPS, LPCC, LADCDBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - November 5, 2024

Graduating from the DBH program has influenced and enhanced my approach to addressing behavioral health challenges and making a difference in the field by preparing me to become a serious business owner. Through the DBH program, I understand now that becoming a business owner not only assists me in reaping the financial benefits of working for myself, but the program also offers me a sense of freedom to make a difference in an individual’s life.

Dr. Rebecca K. Wright, DBH, LBA, BCBA, QBADBH Alumna, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - December 18, 2024

I have always wanted to pursue a higher degree but never found a program that met my needs. When I investigated the DBH program, I can honestly say I was excited. It was a program that would expand my knowledge in behavioral health but also how it relates to physical health. The philosophy of treating the whole person was exactly what I was looking for.

Elizabeth Nekoloff, M.Ed., LPCC-S, NCCDBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - January 16, 2025

Prior to obtaining my DBH, I practiced behavioral health within the boundaries of behavior analysis. The DBH degree has given me the ability to broaden my scope of competence allowing me to provide a higher quality of care to my clients through a person-centered approach, while still staying within my scope of practice. I was in the beginning stages of opening my business when I enrolled in the DBH program which set my trajectory towards being a stronger leader. The program equipped me with essential healthcare leadership and entrepreneurial skills, allowing me to ensure high-quality services for my clients and foster a supportive work environment for our staff. It has also given me the confidence to expand my business and pursue other healthcare ventures, reaching a broader range of patients in need.

Dr. Pauline Tolentino Pablo, DBH, BCBA, IBADBH Alumna, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - January 21, 2025

Although I have worked with many patients who have mental health diagnoses, or behaviors which make managing their medical diagnoses and day to day life difficult, the DBH program at CGI is broadening that knowledge and providing a deeper understanding of behavioral health and how best to help these individuals manage their health and improve their quality of life. This will allow me to provide and advocate for more meaningful and seamless integrated care, providing new tools for my intervention toolbox, and the confidence and skills to collaborate within and lead whole person focused interdisciplinary teams. I also anticipate building upon my knowledge as a nurse case manager and long time caregiver, as well as my personal passions and professional vision, learning about processes and operations, to be in position to start up and lead my own company one day, offering the services and care I know every person should have access to.

Hollie Wilson, MSN, RN, CCMDBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - February 11, 2025

The DBH program will open opportunities for me to contribute to healthcare system innovation, particularly through trauma-informed care and integrated behavioral health settings. I will be better positioned to advocate for and implement holistic care models that improve health outcomes for underserved populations. Ultimately, this program will help me transition into higher-level roles, such as a director or consultant in behavioral health, where I can influence broader system changes and contribute to the future of healthcare delivery.

DeKyn Rashad Peters, MPH-CHES,BSW/BA,APCDBH Candidate, Cummings Graduate Institute for Behavioral Health Studies - March 4, 2025

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